Their debut seasons in the Big 12 haven't exactly gone the way No. 23 West Virginia and TCU had hoped.
The Mountaineers (5-2, 2-2 Big 12) and Horned Frogs (5-3, 2-3) are coming off a lousy October and are in need of solid finishes to improve their positions for a bowl.
First, they've got to become bowl eligible. The team that doesn't on Saturday will be saddled with its first three-game losing streak under their current coaches.
It hasn't happened at TCU since the Horned Frogs lost four straight under Dennis Franchione in 1998. West Virginia lost three straight to finish the 2004 season with Rich Rodriguez at the helm.